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    Hey all;

    I was wondering if Cadillac released a Mid-Engine sports car along the lines of the Cien concept would any of you purchase it for lets say a $140,000 Price Tag?

    Weigh in your opinions here thx!

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    $140k is out of my price range. Besides that would more likely be the price of a mid-engine Vette and not a Caddy.
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    I would much rather spend that kind of money on a year or two old Ferrari as opposed to a vette or cadillac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonypro99 View Post
    Hey all;

    I was wondering if Cadillac released a Mid-Engine sports car along the lines of the Cien concept would any of you purchase it for lets say a $140,000 Price Tag?

    Weigh in your opinions here thx!
    Personally, I would hope that they would not.

    Cadillac has always been a luxury brand that was supposed to exemplify the best of the best when it comes to the luxury segment of the market.

    Over the years - especially in the last 3 decades, I think Cadillac has lost it's identity and lacks vision in some areas.

    When the CTS first came out - I liked it....after a long period of growing on me. It took SEVERAL walks around the car and contemplation from different angles to finally start to have some appreciation for it.

    Then the XLR came out: the first thing I thought of was: "holy S$$$, that's it! That's what the CTS was missing." The CTS - while being a nice car, is too oblong for me....it's big and bulky. The XLR looks like someone stepped on a CTS and the sides popped out.

    It looks sleek, sexy and passionate. It gave me that: "God I want one of those someday...." feelings. The CTS hasn't done that for me.

    Don't get me wrong: I like the CTS-V and the CTS-V coupe (until you get behind that enormous rear-end), but not enough to go buy one.

    Cadillac has been wanting to go after BMW and Mercedes for quite some time now. The CTS was the start of that assault.

    In some ways, I think they have failed. In other ways, I think they've come relatively close. However: rather than diverting attention and funds towards building a mid-engine sports car for the marque - I'd rather see GM put the time, money and effort into taking the CTS, massaging it, paring it down in size and weight and REALLY giving Germany something to worry about.

    Save the mid-engine sports car concept for Corvette.

    Not to ramble on here, but just a case in point:

    I've always loved BMW's since the 2002 model 3-series debuted. I bought a 2004 330xi a few years ago - fully loaded. Great car, extremely fun to drive, perfect size for me, goes like stink, carves corners pretty well, and the AWD is freakin' awesome in the snow and makes the car that much more fun to drive.

    Today, I'm hopefully trading it in on a 2008 335xi 2-door coupe which I've always lusted after. I want so badly to feel that same level of excitement for a CTS, but I just can't.

    The BMW has all the options I want, the build quality I'm looking for, and that sweet, sexy design and appearance that I love. While the current generation of BMW is slightly bigger than my 2004, it still retains that "just the right size" for me. I look at a CTS and I just see a bloated wall of sheet metal sitting there in front of me.

    Cadillac: please take the CTS back to the drawing board: retain some of the design elements, shave off 4 inches of height off the car, and give me a 325hp engine with at least 300 lb-ft of torque. I don't want an anemic drivetrain, and since I already have a Corvette in the garage - I have no need for a 500+ horsepower engine for a daily driver back and forth to work.

    Stay away from playing around with a mid-engine concept and give that money to Corvette Engineering so that they can finally let Zora's dream come true.
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    Good post Rob. I could not agree more.

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    That would be a really tough choice between a mid-engine Vette, and a Cien! I love the Ciens lines, especially if they put adequate Horses under that big hood! But the Vette with a small block-midengine with a blower! Now that would be exciting!
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    Hi Rob,
    Personally I like the idea of a 500+ HP grocery getter but that's just me.

    Also, a mid-engine Caddy just doesn't sound right to me either. I'd rather see GM try that in the Vette first.

    The second generation CTS can be had with a 304 HP and 273 lb-ft of torque engine - pretty close to what you're looking for anyway. The 'standard' CTS models weight in around 3850 lbs also. It's the V series versions that weight in over 4200 lbs (my wagon is supposed to be closer to 4400#).
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    Probably not, certainly not new, out of my toy budget and I'm not convinced it could be done right at $140k. Maybe after it had been out a couple of years, been owned and babied by a GM exec as a show piece, the kinks worked out and was half priced - then I might well step up. Besides that gives me a couple more years to save up.

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    Here's pictures of the Cadillac Cien @ The Meadow Brook Hall car show in August 2002;
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    I believe a "Cien" replica was used in the movie "The Island".
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    Beautiful! Didn't it have a V-12? Some pretty awsome looking front rotors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fascady View Post
    Beautiful! Didn't it have a V-12? Some pretty awsome looking front rotors.

    Yes, a V-12 NorthStar
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    Thanks! I hadn't read the other post with the Meadowbrook pics. Are there any specs on that engine available, or on the cars performance? Or was it basically just a show piece/concept?
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    I found a sight with the info on the car; I'm still impressed!
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    I think it is a pretty good looking car. V12 wow.
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