Help! XLR Header Survey

[antsu]

Good luck. By the time you have themnade shipped and tariffs it would be around 3000-3500 to land here. Theres just not going to be interest at that point. Thete are many shops than can mame them herefor 1500-2000 which is still too high.

 

[antsu]

In my opinion 1500-2000 USD is cheap.

 

[mickeytee]

Its realative. Theres not that much to be gained unless You follow up with injectors new fuel pumps, supercharger porting. Overdrive pulley and someone that can tune it. The headers are just going to be noisey plus more heat where you already have too much . here we have to deal with keeping the cats in place. When a similiar corvette or mustang header is 500$ then 3 to 4 times is a lot of $ for no real gain. Glad to hear you are loaded as you will need it.. good luck but i highly doubt you will find buyers here.

 

[antsu]

Dear Mickey
I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by your comment. Or maybe it just is my english.
First of all I mentioned both the headers and CAI will be manufactured to my car anyway, so I´m not trying "to sell" anything. The thread has been going on for 10 years and still people are asking about headers.
In Europe the cats are mandatory as well, emission regulations are about the same level as in California.
As for the additional "work" needed for significant gain in power, I have a background in rallying, so I´m well avare the modifications needed. That said, first steps are always the intake and exhaust. If I have correctly understood with XLRV the main problem is the exhaust.
As for the tuning, I would be happy to get some info about the software, if You have any suggestions.

Lets try to be constructive about these cars, instead of negative.

BR

Antsu

 

[mickeytee]

You asked if there was interest in buying headers if you had extras made. I just told you the facts n what to expect. There have been about 20 people over the years going to do the same thing. Its never happened. Just being totally honest on the fact a lot of people would buy them if they were 1000-1500 and a proven improvement. I also stated that the engine was pretty well developed by GM. So aftermarket improvements dont net a whole lot of gain and must be done with the added items i mentioned to get real benefit. Good luck with your project.

 

[RandB]

Its realative. Theres not that much to be gained unless You follow up with injectors new fuel pumps, supercharger porting. Overdrive pulley and someone that can tune it. The headers are just going to be noisey plus more heat where you already have too much . here we have to deal with keeping the cats in place. When a similiar corvette or mustang header is 500$ then 3 to 4 times is a lot of $ for no real gain. Glad to hear you are loaded as you will need it.. good luck but i highly doubt you will find buyers here.

You are comparing a product for a massed produced cars to a vary low production car, that is like comparing charcoal to a diamond. Not trying to be mean, but they sell more mustangs in a quarter than all the XLR's ever made, so of course they are going to be a much lower price, as they can spread their costs over a thousand units, compared to 10 units sold for the XLR.

 

[mickeytee]

Which is exactly what i said. With thousands of mustang owners you will find a percentage that will buy headers. With xlr you will find fewer owners and a much lower percentage who want them even if they were the same price. Many mustang ownersvare young and think more noise means more power.older xlr owners know different.

 

[antsu]

Mickey seems to be against everything.

 

[mickeytee]

No. Just stateing facts. Funny how today when facts dont match up with someones thinking they think you are opposed to it. Please ,point out anything i said that is not true. they have been made before, its not a new idea. They dyno sheets show what they did for hp. Ive spent a lot of time trying to round up the ones the d3 made that did not sale. Ive watched hundreds of cars that totaled And got parted out hoping to find one with headers that i could buy to see about getting them made .so im certainly not against them. I just know whats involved. You go right ahead and make a dozen sets and i hope you sell them. How is it against something to just state what you are facing?.when you have them ready to sell I'll direct everyone to you to buy.

 

[antsu]

Mickey. You don´t like the max din for xlr, you don´t like people straying from OE or equivalent modifications. You don´t like people trying to "add" anything that costs money. Why does anyone buy a XLR/V?
not to fit in mass. That is only my opinion, I could have bought a brand new porsche for the price my 2009 XLRV is going to cost me., BUT there are lots of Porsches in Europe , as far as I know mine is the only 2009 XLRV in europe......so that is why I´m willing to spend some additional money for it.....and BTW if anyone thinks that changing the CAI or the exhaust manifolds alone mean any significant power gain, they should stick to stock cars.

 

[antsu]

No. Just stateing facts. Funny how today when facts dont match up with someones thinking they think you are opposed to it. Please ,point out anything i said that is not true. they have been made before, its not a new idea. They dyno sheets show what they did for hp. Ive spent a lot of time trying to round up the ones the d3 made that did not sale. Ive watched hundreds of cars that totaled And got parted out hoping to find one with headers that i could buy to see about getting them made .so im certainly not against them. I just know whats involved. You go right ahead and make a dozen sets and i hope you sell them. How is it against something to just state what you are facing?.when you have them ready to sell I'll direct everyone to you to buy.

AND still I am not TRYING TO SELL ANYTHING, I just wanted the people to know that there are some parts in manufacturing

 

[robert.ogden2009]

You don't need to make modifications to an XLR to stand out. They stand out on their own. Mickey is right, change whatever you like, its your car.

 

[antsu]

You don't need to make modifications to an XLR to stand out. They stand out on their own. Mickey is right, change whatever you like, its your car.

You´re missing the point.......

 

[mickeytee]

So what is your point? Yes im not into a lot of changes. I am a purist in most cases . yes i was raised for 74 years that if ive done something or know something that will save others from wasting their time and money, im going to let them know.Most like that, apparently some dont. i tried to help the guy making the max din. I told him make something simple like the interior door panel light. He could get known and sell a bunch. I told him check with owners about what they would want in a new radio. But instead he decided what we should want and made it. In nov last year he stated it was perfected ready to go taking orders for jan delivery. i know how production items are to get going. The motto of under promise and over deliever does not apply here.
I also have inside knowledge of his former partner and the situation on the corvette version that took a while to get the bugs out. Any new product can do that. Im glad he found 80 people who want the radio.I did not like all his negative comments on how worthless the xlr is because no one wants them due to no aftermarket upgrades available and he is going to single handed going to save the cars from being worthless. how next hes going to making new headlights and tailights and all the parts the car needs. Totally wish he could .Not holding my breath.
Im not trying to bash him, hes made a product that people seem to want and thats great.is it going to suddrnly increase the value of the car? History says no. But maybe people will like it.
Yes i am also not a fan of the LS transplants. Ten years ago i looked into it and its expensive and few have the ability to get it done. And yes put a lot of money in a car thats worth half when done is not my idea of a smart project so imay say so.
Having been an owner and working on the cars for years im tired of the people who jump on here and act like they are the only one that can 3d print parts that no one has ever heard of it and they are going to make headlights and tailights and going to make new mesh grills. On and on. Most of us know whats involved. and its not going to happen. Make a top module. That we need. Im working with a guy that hooes to have them soon. I really hope he can.
Knowing that some owners would like more power i worked with Holley and procharger to adapt or make a kit for the base 4.6. We would need to sell between 5-600 to cover cost. Not going to happen. You'll find that the unique firing order on the northstar makes adapting current tunes , header design a challange. Yeah you can bend and fit pipes but tuned for power not noise? A challange.
Im glad you are up to it and if you get it done there are members who will buy . i may though currently running turbo.
One thing i like about my xlr is what i do and figure out is mine. You can buy parts off the shelf for an ls. you can make a lot more power. But you just bought parts. You did not figure anything out. Anything you want to do, someones already done. Not so with the northstar. So good luck on your project, you be you and ill continue to be me. Im fine that ive been able to help a few owners over the years. You might want to check your power steering pump.they fail. Ive helped about a 100 owners but now done. Ive got a couple left ,thats it.no more. already one car parked and waiting for something to show up. I was looking into other ideas but no longer have the time or health. Ill leave that to someone else. Maybe you can help.oh and i have neighbors from Finland . ive helped source a few usa products to ship family